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Author:  Omega Hunter 9 [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Flood: Natural or Artificial?

Well, that sounds like a nice idea, however I have one of my own that disproves yours. If the Flood was a bio-engineered virus to prolong life, the first thing that any good geneticist would do is put in a 'back-door' in the Virus DNA to stop it if anything goes wrong in the same sense a hacker might for his virus. The Forerunners are just so advanced, I can't see them disregarding such a small safety protocol.

Author:  failedparachute [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Flood: Natural or Artificial?

To that I say that "Life finds a way." Perhaps, like has already speculated, and not just in this thread, as I've already brought up the theory that the Flood started as a way for the Forerunners to prolong their lifespan in the Gravemind thread, and that the evolved and whatever backdoor or fail-safe that was "built-in" was negated by the course of nature. I will say no more except that once again I feel I'm repeating myself and that people should use the search button [/forum-nazi].

Author:  Lurono [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Flood: Natural or Artificial?

Good point. Part of the problem here is we don't KNOW for sure how the Forerunner even acted... It's possible that they became cocky with their technology and would disregard seemingly little problems... Or, again, it's possible that the Flood weren't created by the Forerunner. If only Bungie would give us SOMETHING useful regarding the Forerunner... We really don't know enough!

Also, we are having to assume that the Forerunner even had a similar system of logic to us... It's possible that things that make sense to us (like safe-guards during experiments) don't make sense to them. Or, in reverse, something like killing all life in the galaxy made sense to the Forerunner, but it makes no sense to us...

Edit: Yeah, I wasn't thinking Jurassic Park :P

Author:  yakaman [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:43 pm ]
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Author:  Maimbot 9000 [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Flood: Natural or Artificial?

Yes. Both Marathon and Myth dealt with seeking balance rather than outright victory/destruction, and I have no reason to think Halo will be any different. I think I've already babbled in another thread (or maybe even this one) about how I think the Forerunner wanted balance as well--studying the Flood, maybe preserving Flood structures on the Halos, trying to find a way to achieve harmony with this anti-life. Finally, getting nowhere in negotiations with the Gravemind, and finding no way of slowing the Flood's spread, they decided to maintain balance simply by wiping the galaxy clean, leaving some life (us, the Covenant races) and some anti-life (the Flood). And they hoped we'd figure something out.

Thanks a ton, Forerunner.

Author:  supremely [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Flood: Natural or Artificial?

if that is so then the sentance "Know that a thousand other plans were tried and failed" fits because perhaps they tried everything else but activating the halo's but- failed.
And to further yakaman's quote in episode 3:
"Should I pursue a pyrrhic choice?
And rethink alliances?
And choose a new philosophy?
Right or might?
Truly I do not know
But you will, soon enough".
they knew what legacy they were leaving behind. but i wonder if they knew or cared to whom they were leaving it, the covenant and humans regarded halo and forunner information so differently.

Author:  Lurono [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Flood: Natural or Artificial?

Well, as far as the preservation of the Flood goes, again, it's hard to say what the Forerunner were thinking... To truly understand that we have to think like THEM not US. I've heard a lot of people point out that we still keep samples of various diseases around for research purposes, even though we may have eradicated it... Maybe the Flood for research was a similar deal? What confuses me is why would they make it so easy for the Flood to escape (at least the game makes it appear easy)? You could compare it to a careless parent not putting child-proof locks on their cabinet with the poisonous cleaners in it.

And then with the Flood being natural... It IS wholly possible... The only problem is that how could something that uses hosts so quickly survive long enough to even evolve to the point that the Flood are at? Whatever planet they originated on would have been lifeless (at least as far as potential hosts are concerned) VERY quickly. Too quickly, imo.

It's still interesting that they would kill all potential hosts AND keep the Flood around. And it's interesting that they "onveniently" missed us and the Covenant with the Halos...

I do like the idea that they kept the Flood as a reminder, or a lesson. Perhaps, somehow, they didn't know where the Flood homeworld was and were unable to totally guarantee that the Flood would stay dead? Just an idea... Always fun to add fuel to the fire :mrgreen:

Edit: :idea: Perhaps the Forerunner are the ones that are extra-galactic, and not the Flood. That could help to explain why we are receiving messages AFTER the Halos fired... Kinda off-topic I guess... I just wanted to use this :arrow: :idea: and this :arrow: :arrow:

Hopefully this idea will give someone else a new idea :P

Author:  Frogwart [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Flood: Natural or Artificial?

If by extra-galactic, you mean the Forerunner originated (or took off and hid just before the Halos fired) in another universe, I brought this idea up several weeks ago in another thread, now long lost to the depths of these threads.

I never did get any takers on that idea (that I can recall), but it's still one of my favorite ideas. If, in Ghosts of Onyx, for example, (spoilers) there can be a hidden world within the 13-pronged device (similar to the device in the announcement trailer) that the cast of characters escape to, why can't there be a parallel universe or two that hold the keys to the Forerunner's origins?

Maybe the Forerunner just came from their universe over to our sandbox, made a mess and tried to clean it up. When they saw it was too big a job for them, they tried to cover it up by completely destroying it (well, as much as they could before it was too late for them to safely get out of Dodge). Then they split back to their Carney-holes, maybe learning they shouldn't mess with things that aren't theirs to mess with in the first place...

Author:  Lurono [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Flood: Natural or Artificial?

Yeah, decent sounding idea. I am kinda doubtful, however, that Bungie would do it. Alternate universes seem to be too far out there for most people atm... What I meant exactly was more of from just another galaxy. I'm also suprised I missed a theory on the Flood here. I must have been slacking that week :oops:

Author:  supremely [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:29 am ]
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