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Gravemind's actual quote is "...questions linger on..." Looks like the Halo story page's transcript has a slight error in it...


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"questions linger ON"... not one.. haha, he has more than one question... aanndd the way I see it, personally, he's not saying "soo... if it's ok with you, i mean, if you don't mind... ya think you can answer some questions for me.. iiff that's not too much trouble...". I see it more of a "i really don't care what you want, AI... i'm gunna ask, and you're gunna tell". When you're browsing a website, whatever... typically you have a question that you want answered, and I just see it as GM using cortana as a browser. She didn't seem, again, in my opinion, all too negligent against answering, either. It seemed like she was pretty ok with playing 21 questions with the guy. And Pak, I wouldn't be so quick to call anything, any speculation, absurd. While there is, of course, a consistancy to be expected, this is a videogame, comic, novel world, set far in the future where nothing is writ (except by bungie) and and is completely sci-fi. Bungie can throw anything they want out there, and who can tell them that it's impossible, that it's absurd...


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As long as we're speculating, what if the overriding entity is a Cortana--not the singular and original Cortana, but one of the copies she made to outwit the Covenant ship's AI in First Strike (I think it was that book)? The 'he' would be a problem, but it could be that Cortana has convinced AR that she outranks him by using a security code she picked up from being inside of the first Halo's forerunner computer network (but not High Charity's because when the multiple degraded copies of herself were made, that hadn't happened yet) which AR would identify as belonging, if used appropriately, with a 'he.'

The thing that this helps explain is the flash of images we saw in the video: of 343 GS, of Master Chief, of the Halo firing, among other things (the other things she could've picked up from forerunner archives). She saw those things, and they were shown to us in the context of Iris. The only other explanation for those images is that it was basically a commercial and frankly, I'd rather give Bungie more credit than that (fingers crossed)!

What's interesting about this if it were to be the case is that since the copies of Cortana were described as changed, degraded, inferior, they could be different from her in crucial, unpredictable, and potentially evil/conflicted (or at least chaotic) ways--rampancy with a twist.

Just a crazy thought, that's why I put it here in the 'speculation' section. Do with it what you will. :)


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i don't know how much this has to do with the current topic, but i decieded it was better than making a new topic

i was thinking
gravemind has control of the halos transportaion matrix, its the same as the teleportation in 343 guilty sparks in halo 1

he's either infected forerunner, or just a flood with control of the matrix, but how?
pentint tangent i wager, that or he's a forerunner himself


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I just figured Gravemind was a highly-evolved Flood Brain form. He could possibly be the first flood or like an Alpha Male in a pack. However these are just wild speculation theories. Flame my ideas as much as you want, I'm just throwing out things from the top of my head here.


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I don't know, I'm liking the GM was a forerunner, because he was alive for millennia, meaning he was around before the Humans and the Covenant, and that just leaves the Forerunner, also it would take a forerunner brain for GM to be so smart, because he didn't take over Regret's body when he dropped down there, and I think that one of the top prophets has to be plenty smart.

So yeah I think GM being an infected forerunner is starting to make sense


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