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Author:  DaRrin W [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:31 pm ]
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What if the Flood WERE/ARE the Forerunners - we're talking a lot about genetics, slipspace, etc, what if they just ended up gene-splicing themselves, or did some kind of experiment on themselves that turned them into the flood, or that the breakdown in genetic code lead them to their current flood status. Maybe it's just a disease they tried to treat on a whole whack of levels, but some key element was missing. Accidental de-evolution perhaps? Backwards space/time malfunction?

Perhaps that explains why the Forerunners wanted to just contain the flood and not eliminate them. That makse sense if you think that humans (or other earthly creatures (dinos, alligators, etc)) had/have some sort of genetic immunity on a cross-gene splicing level.

I mean, they have sentinals they could just set out to destroy everything right? But they PURPOSELY kept the flood in some sort of stasis or dormant state. Perhaps using them as some sort of genetic marker to examine and extrapolate from - kind of like getting DNA samples of Dinosaurs from an ancient mosquito encased and preserved in amber then re-creating dinosaurs (a la Jurassic Park).

Author:  thereIwasn't [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:32 pm ]
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DaRrin W wrote:
What if the Flood WERE/ARE the Forerunners - we're talking a lot about genetics, slipspace, etc, what if they just ended up gene-splicing themselves, or did some kind of experiment on themselves that turned them into the flood, or that the breakdown in genetic code lead them to their current flood status. Maybe it's just a disease they tried to treat on a whole whack of levels, but some key element was missing. Accidental de-evolution perhaps? Backwards space/time malfunction?

Perhaps that explains why the Forerunners wanted to just contain the flood and not eliminate them. That makse sense if you think that humans (or other earthly creatures (dinos, alligators, etc)) had/have some sort of genetic immunity on a cross-gene splicing level.

I mean, they have sentinals they could just set out to destroy everything right? But they PURPOSELY kept the flood in some sort of stasis or dormant state. Perhaps using them as some sort of genetic marker to examine and extrapolate from - kind of like getting DNA samples of Dinosaurs from an ancient mosquito encased and preserved in amber then re-creating dinosaurs (a la Jurassic Park).


If you search flood on this forum at this point, I'm pretty sure that the phrase 'extragalactic in origin' comes up plenty. If this was suggested before Iris, I'm sure that it would have been regarded as clever, but now unfortunately...

Author:  uncle_trubble [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Humans aren't forerunner?

The Flood aren't Forerunner, neither are humans, neither are any of the covenant.
It's pretty much been determined that yes, the Flood are indeed extragalatic in origin.
As for humanity, we aren't forerunner per se, but have probably been genetically altered and given the responsibility of the Halos.

Truth: "Your FOREFATHERS wisely put aside their compassion, steeled themselves for what had to be done. I see now why they left you behind"
343GS: "Accept your legacy!"
The forerunners gave to humanity, and only humanity, the responsibility to, if necessary, activate the Halos.
The term "reclaimer" is from Humanity's duty to "reclaim" the legacy of the installations.

Author:  thereIwasn't [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:16 am ]
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Yeah, the flood Obviously aren't Forerunner, but the core of what I'm trying to get as is...
A) Were the forerunners represented by a single race?
a)If yes, was it us?
b) If no, were we a representative race?
B) Does us being reclaimers make us forerunners, or does this mean that we're just another group chosen by them to do something special?

Author:  uncle_trubble [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:44 am ]
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We don't know much in the way of politics and government with the Forerunner, but we weren't part of it-just the fact that we were so primitive in the Cradle of Life comic tells us that much

Author:  ProfessorHojo05 [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:53 am ]
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I am guessing that I am the first person posting in this discussion who has read the latest book Contact Harvest. In it, a Forerunner device in the hands on the Covenant claims that they have misinterpreted the meaning of a symbol on their detection devices or sensors or what ever you want to call them. The Covenant thought the symbol represented "Reclamation" when in actually meant "Reclaimer".

Author:  uncle_trubble [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:23 pm ]
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That doesn't mean anything.
In response to what you said,

Author:  ProfessorHojo05 [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:37 pm ]
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You may choose to believe that it doesn't mean anything, but I still think Humanity IS Forerunner. If you look at an evolutionary time scale, what the modern human came from has NO history. What monkeys were becoming died off because what became us showed up. Perhaps a Forerunner colony set up to regrow into what the Forerunner once were hence the name given to us by them. "Reclaimer"

Author:  uncle_trubble [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:08 pm ]
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If humanity is forerunner, then why are we so primitive in the Cradle of Life comic?

Author:  ProfessorHojo05 [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:00 am ]
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Perhaps that was what monkeys evolved into before they died off. We know those people had the use of tools and clothing.

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