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Author:  LordOsiris [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:25 am ]
Post subject:  Phyrric

In at least two of the accesable server documents include the word phyrric:

In the array data Recorder:
"It's done. By my hands. The pyrrhic solution is ignited. All I have left is the quiet of
space to lull me to sleep. I will dream of you."

and in content_overwrite:
"Should I pursue a pyrrhic choice?
And rethink alliances?"

after searching up pyrrhic in google, the first result contained this line:
"A Pyrrhic victory is a victory with devastating cost to the victor. The phrase is an allusion to King Pyrrhus of Epirus, whose army suffered irreplaceable casualties when he defeated the Romans during the Pyrrhic War at Heraclea in 280 BC and Asculum in 279 BC. "

I think this is very interesting, and may have somthing to do with the ARG. Any ideas?

Author:  LordOsiris [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Phyrric


Author:  Kammy [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Phyrric

an alternative definition is "a victory at such a cost to be almost meaningless." so the obliteration of half the forerunner civilization, all other life, and them fleeing to the dyson spheres sounds pyrhhic to me. Strikes me as just the author of the logs reflecting upon the loss of life.

Author:  Thrasher66099 [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phyrric

Those are possible alternative definitions, but when pyrrhic victory is used in general conversation the excepted definition is as follows:
"Victory at all costs."

Although it is not that far from what your definitions render it to be it is still a small variation. It simply means that no matter what it takes or whether it would be smarter to give up the pursuer of such a victory will never stop until success is achieved. I don't think it really means much in these quotes other than the fact that the speaker was stating he or she lost more than should have been acceptable to attain victory. (This is obviously talking about wiping out all sentient life.)

Author:  Maimbot 9000 [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phyrric

Er, no, that is absolutely not the generally accepted definition of "pyrrhic victory." I've never heard it used the way you're describing and I'd be very interested to see any dictionary or encyclopedia that backed you up. It means a victory at a devastating cost to the victor, full stop.

Author:  LordOsiris [ Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Phyrric


Author:  Ibeechu [ Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Phyrric

Yes... that's the point of the Halos: to wipe the galaxy clean of all sentient life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood. Activating the Halos is a pyrric solution; it stops the Flood from gaining control of the galaxy, but at what a price.

Author:  LordOsiris [ Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:42 am ]
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Author:  BootsMcGavin [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:52 am ]
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Author:  ChiliDog [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Phyrric

speaking of Pyhrric solutions, would this be relevant to a decision cortana would make in regards to blowing In Amber Clad to take down gravemind in High Charity?

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